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Moe Aloha's avatar

Brother,

Thank you for this comment, I really do live for conversations like this. Ones that leave me twisting in the breeze...

I think it may be useful to give you a bit of a look at some of the watering holes my being swims in. I am deeply in to animism, shamanism and magic and for me there is a world we cannot see which is JUST as alive, if not moreso than the one we can observe with our eyes.

I believe we are intricately connected and interdependent with animals, plants, ancestry, and if you have read some of my previous newsletters you'll know I've written a bit about my personal concept of kinship extending far beyond our immediate family. Speak to any aboriginal elder and they will tell you what the energy of stone is like, or stories they have heard from the river. Any shaman will tell you in great detail about conversations with otherworldly beings, entities and spirit animals.

During my own shamanic training, I had an experience where I journeyed to other realms guided by a shamanic teacher. Up to that point I had been quite skeptical. However, during this "spirit journey," my skepticism was challenged when the teacher described what was happening in my experience in perfect detail.

It left me in pure disbelief because there was no logical way for him to know what I was going through unless he had been present with me on that spirit journey. It completely shattered my world view as in that moment I could have just been imagining the whole experience (yes I do have a wild imagination) but to have the experience confirmed by someone else in granular detail simply stunned me.

Which has left me believing without a doubt that:

1) There is a world that exists alongside our material reality

2) This world is alive and sentient just as much, if not more than the world we can perceive with our present sensemaking

3) With the right training anyone can access these states and spaces

I understand that to a lot of people these are WILD beliefs to have and to be honest it is really hard to comprehend let along explain. Josh Schrei's the Emerald podcast does a much better job of doing this than I ever can. But I digress, these experiences utterly defy logic in the current paradigm we hold it. Now try to explain this to a Psychologist - which Bayo Akomelefe describes as the "cops of Capitalism" and I'll be half way to mental institute before I can put down my ceremonial grade cacao hahaaha (though this is changing with emerging psychology branches such as IFS and Transpersonal which acknowledge the concept of the soul)

This is super problematic, which lends further to my overarching point which is: is our culture just doesn't have the ability to come to grips with the workings of the spirit world our concept of the soul with collapsing in to logical conclusions. There is no talk of soul in the classrooms, Gods have been banished from the mainstream and in general they just seem impossible — absurd — for those acculturated in the post-industrial society and reductive empiricism of the West.

It's also important to note that if we zoom out, 99.9% of people across 99.9% of time would NOT have struggled to come to grips with these ideas - and WE are the outliers here in the grand scheme of things. These are people who haven't had to deal with the modern perils of social media, addiction, "making a name" for themselves, but lived in close and reciprocal proximity with the land without the distractions of modernity.

This doesn't mean logic and reason are redundant - I think they have a really important role to play in a healthy and functioning individual as well as society but upholding it as the only way of understanding the world leads to dangerous consequences. Currently our western secular paradigm holds knowledge of the psyche at about 99%, and I am advocating for just a bit more balance.

One of the things I would've love to have explored more is that all ways of knowing play crucial roles, one cannot exist without the other. It's not a zero sum game but they are all as vital as each other. I believe in time we will rationally be able to explain the concept of soul and spirit, our use our soul to enhance our psychological abilities and so on. However, as you also pointed out, there are numerous directions we could explore, and each could warrant days of discussion and exploration haha.

If you want to explore these concepts a bit further - i'd HIGHLY recommend the Emerald. Calling it a podcast is honestly a disservice, this is such a powerful transmission and transcends the idea of "content' itself

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6wutqbPB6KBb4cn8dnqLE3

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Nicola Gracie's avatar

I saw a quote once “we can’t think outside the box when the thinking is the box”. We can feel. Feel that sentiment aligns and a summarisation of sorts. I’d like to add we can’t think but we can FEEL. I feel feeling bridge the gap between conscious and unconscious conscious. Or aware and unaware. My experience of feelings is they are the thread that connects through all altered states where it be dream to powerful psychedelic experiences where we may loose touch with our ‘waking consciousness’ we don’t loose touch with feeling. Currently exploring the theme of somatic trust through a year long arts based research process so this feels so aligned. Thanks for sharing your perspectives, journey and insights Moe ❤️‍🔥

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